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Rachel stepped away from leading a church in 2020, in search of “Something more authentic.” She is an author of 5 books including her latest, Finding Jesus In The Wilderness. Why did she write this book? What has she learned so far in her own wilderness? Why did she leave a life of church having gone from worship leader to itinerant preacher to assistant pastor? What is church? I thoroughly enjoyed being in Rachel’s company and this is yet another podcast where the discussion goes off-piste!







